Cathedral of Learning ~ 2014

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

She is snoozing and hasn't moved.

I was watching her earlier today and it seemed for the most part, she was hunched over and squatting. I had to pick up dog toys outside and move some laundry when my cam timed out. When I came back in and started cam again, I found her standing with tail in air... reminds me of when they are letting the egg dry. Even if I made the window full screen, I don't know if this is new, or if #1 is behind her and this is #2, or if it's #1 and she's just standing over it?

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

She finally moved at 9:16pm. Backed up again to poop. Only 1 egg.

I really feel bad for her. I do feel she was really trying earlier today. And now she's awake again.

Beth · **Posted:** Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:24 pm

Dang-I just checked the cam mw...thought for sure she had two and
could rest...

Beth · **Posted:** Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:08 am

thanks Carly for the post...

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

I was watching her last night. I don't think she feels well.

I thought for sure she was in labor yesterday. I saw her poop several times in the nest. Once she woke up and moved to poop, I don't think she went back to the egg. She stayed in the upper left side if box, almost out if cam range, then moved to the upper right side - seemed almost in the corner each time. I thought that was sort of odd.

I've watched her a few times over the years, but never really closely. I wish I had taken the time to watch her when she was still in her prime.

Matrix · **Posted:** Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:45 am

mwplay wrote:

I was watching her last night. I don't think she feels well.

I thought for sure she was in labor yesterday. I saw her poop several times in the nest. Once she woke up and moved to poop, I don't think she went back to the egg. She stayed in the upper left side if box, almost out if cam range, then moved to the upper right side - seemed almost in the corner each time. I thought that was sort of odd.

I've watched her a few times over the years, but never really closely. I wish I had taken the time to watch her when she was still in her prime.

I cannot watch very much but when I have, your description is what I thought too....

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

carly wrote:

I've never seen a falcon 'stop' the process of laying eggs as it were. I remember Freedom but she was already 'done' by the time I met her. I remember Roosevelt once or twice trying to entice her to mate but she wasn't interested.

I wonder if she experienced a similar thing or she was 'just done' . I sure hope it's just she's done and not something more serious.

Me too.

I can tell you as of at least Saturday, I believe she was still mating. Everything seemed normal. In the picture I posted last night, her crop looked extremely full, and I don't think I saw her actually lay on the egg last night. Instead, she stood with her head tucked back. At times, it seemed like she was having a hard time balancing. I'm guessing that was probably due to her standing position and falling asleep.

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

9:37am

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

11:08 - Dorothy has been up for about 30 minutes. She's trying to push again. I've been recording for 7 minutes now.

11:11 - E2 must have given alarm call in distance because Dorothy perked up and was OUT of the box ASAP.

11:12 - heard E2 wail and now, I think I'm hearing Dorothy chup again. Well, at least she has energy.

11:14 - I think E2 just came into box, covering egg

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

11:50 - mating....

There's that car engine that just won't turn over...

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

Approx 3pm - Something landed near the box and I could see the shadow (just above it). It got Dorothy's attention, by not answering her call. She started alarm chupping (just like Beauty), and quickly took off. E2 is currently in with the egg.

I couldn't get volume up, but have a recording of her leaving.

3:34 - E2 waiting/listening for the all clear from Dorothy.

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

4:12 - obviously everything is fine. My cam timed out, opened it up to loud mating noises!

:sham4:

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:18 pm **Posts:** 64406

According to their FB page, I think you probably heard a mating session, Carly... :sum8:

I wish I knew what was going on with her. I've had the cam up a lot today. She doesn't appear to be in distress...she's been preening and napping and picking at pebbles...and obviously mating...hee hee...

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:18 pm **Posts:** 64406

catwoman · **Posted:** Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:43 pm

I've been watching her for a little bit & still 1 egg. I agree that she doesn't seem to be in distress (thank goodness)! She looks very heavy in the bottom.

catwoman · **Posted:** Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:11 pm

There was just another canoodle. I see what mw means when she says it sounds like a car trying to start & failing. Its the quality of the microphone.

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

2:30 - E2 has been with egg & Dorothy has been screaming her head off, calling for him. He finally went out to her after about 20 minutes and there was just a canoodle.

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:15 am **Posts:** 10250

carly wrote:

I checked in this morning before I came to work. I wonder how long they'll keep trying? Mind you other falcons have had up to a week between eggs but just hate to see the toll it takes on them.

It seems E2 is more interested in incubating the egg than Dorothy.

I noticed something in the box the other day... towards the front, under the perch, there is a reddish colored something. That wasn't there before. I don't know if it's debris, if it is from prey, or if maybe it is a broken egg? No clue, but wondering if that is what she was trying to pass.

This photo is from Sunday, 3/23 at 7:30pm ET

The next morning 3/24/14 at 9:37am ET:

Box at 2:43pm - I've added pointer to red spot:

If that was the egg she was working on, could explain why they are still mating and still trying...

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:18 pm **Posts:** 64406

Very interesting, mwplay...did you see the post that DEF made about the egg at Aalsmeer!!?

The second egg had NO Shell...I have never, ever seen that before. The pics are on FB...I hope you can see them.

(click on the pics to enlarge)

I had to go back and look, but remember Columbus, 2008..Scout's first egg was 3/29. She didn't lay her second egg until 4/6. That first egg was practically ignored, but all 4 eggs hatched that year. that was Boomer's year... :flirty:

catwoman · **Posted:** Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:42 pm

skygirlblue wrote:

Very interesting, mwplay...did you see the post that DEF made about the egg at Aalsmeer!!?

The second egg had NO Shell...I have never, ever seen that before. The pics are on FB...I hope you can see them.

(click on the pics to enlarge)

Wow, that was strange! :girlcrazy:

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