MISC USA, 2014

kittenface · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2014 11:44 am

Well hard as it is i have been watching redwing, and its not looking good. The reports more or less from RRP are the same as they always say.
WE ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON IT
BULLSH**

Quote:

Nora, at RRP forum posted
Bob ended an e-mail with "I know we would have opposition to pulling the eyas falcons" and as many years as he's worked with the falcons and knowing how much he does care about them, I have to respect his position. He's in a hard position between what he wants to do and what he's allowed to do in so many instances. He's definitely watching the situation, as is the guy from the plant and Amy and all are in communication. It's hard Shep, I know exactly where you're coming from. :-\

P.S. Some decisions are RRP's for things, but RRP also has guidelines they have to follow also.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:18 pm **Posts:** 64406

Thanks KF...I guess you know I have been posting at RRP about this nest..posted a vid this morning over there..I believe we are seeing the same situation that we saw at Blackdog last year.

The words in "red"...are those YOUR words or words from RRP?...and who would be opposed to pulling the chicks? I don't know who would be against that...it makes no sense..

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

Red Wing

GSB nestbox had 5 eggs and only 1 hatch.
Red Wing nest is very close to GSB along the Mississippi River.
I snapped composite snips in a 1 hour period today - dont know if any value.
One chick did tip over as I watched.
The GSB chick also tips over.
Kitten, I have as much faith and trust in RRP as you do. :gaah:

I put a note on the RRP blog directed to Nora in support of sky's post.
I am not hysterical. I have no idea whats going on.
At GSB I suspect the spray they sprayed the nestbox with last June did harm there.
RRP will never tell us.

As of 1 pm one of the chicks is OUTSIDE mama's wing, the rest in front of her.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:18 pm **Posts:** 64406

Red Wing..

for what its worth..here's my vid from this morning..the one I posted on RRP...Nora sent it to bob/amy..then KF posted Bob's reply..

thanks for your comments, shepherd. I went back and posted my own.

Amy has posted back:

"We're seeing what can be done."

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

It looked to me as if 1 chick far side never got up - tried but couldnt - so didnt eat,
and it appeared to me like one chick was standing on another, who eventually got up.
Is that how you saw it?
I'd have to see this happen a few times to be concerned.
All chix dont eat at each feeding.

kittenface · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2014 1:27 pm

skygirlblue wrote:

Thanks KF...I guess you know I have been posting at RRP about this nest..posted a vid this morning over there..I believe we are seeing the same situation that we saw at Blackdog last year.

The words in "red"...are those YOUR words or words from RRP?...and who would be opposed to pulling the chicks? I don't know who would be against that...it makes no sense..

I forgot to post that it was Nora reporting, I'm going to go fix it right now.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:18 pm **Posts:** 64406

Shepherd wrote:

It looked to me as if 1 chick far side never got up - tried but couldnt - so didnt eat,
and it appeared to me like one chick was standing on another, who eventually got up.
Is that how you saw it?
I'd have to see this happen a few times to be concerned.
All chix dont eat at each feeding.

are you talking about my vid? or were you watching the cam..in my vid, there was no feed. The concern is the 2 chicks that are struggling to turn over (this is abnormal) Occasionally, you will see a baby on its back, but it's usually able to right itself almost immediately..also, their "coloring" is all wrong. Dark patches are beginning to show on both.

This all started out just affecting 1 chick...and now, within days, its affecting 2 chicks. If it is parasites, then the other 2 will probably become infested as well.

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

Oh sky! LOL! :sum8:

I saw mom in feed position and just assumed a feeding.
Yes I meant your video. WHY would dark patches appear?
There is absolutely no reason RRP couldnt go up there and check.
The falcons know the humans - they go up to band.
There is no reason to let this nest fail.

And it cant be normal for a chick to cry as much as that GSB chick does

I wish pics on cam were bigger ........ or do I .. ?

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

THEY GOT the Redwing chix - pics to follow
A hand took all 4 RW chicks
just now
I have pics

The female is not scratching at RW
You have me curious

These pics are just testing my sizer

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

Red Wing
Tuesday, May 27 about 4.30 pm

Here are the 4 chicks just moments before the hand removes them

Here is the hand - will post a couple more pics shortly
I am blowing up them (bigger pics)

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

RED WING - snips taken BEFORE removal of all chicks.

Red Wing BEFORE removal of chix

4.45 pm chicks are back in nest!

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

Red Wing - AFTER chicks put back
That Mama falcon came right back. She knows humans.

kittenface · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2014 5:09 pm

Wonderful news to read :egg20:

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

STolen from RRP - lol - without guilt.
sky is the real heroin. She bugged them.
Even worse .. she got me in on it. bwahahahaha

sorry .. my silly side ... anyway .........

O this is really gross .. ewww

Nora posted this in RRP

Per Amy word for word!!!!!!!!!!

Went to box. It was hippoboscids. Cleaned all the young. I don't know that they will survive but this worked last year at Blackdog. You have my permission to put on forum.

I googled hippoboscids

Stealth Flies On Birds: The Hippoboscids
flat insects that live as parasites on birds and mammals.
http://www.biologydir.com/stealth-flies-on-birds-the-hippoboscids-info-7661.html

:mmd:

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

6.30 pm feeding
One never moved
I wonder why Amy didnt send it to rehab

kittenface · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2014 6:47 pm

SH**

I'm going to say it
IF THEY WOULD HAVE LISTENED TO SGB THIS MIGHT NOT HAVE HAPPENED

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:18 pm **Posts:** 64406

Thank GOODNESS....only time will tell if they got them in time. It may have been too late for the first chick, but maybe the other 3 will recover....I'm not sure if they are equipped for rehab. I hope the 2 really affected chicks will be strong enough to recover.

My guess is they still look horrible because they didn't clean them up...probably best and less traumatic to just allow the dried blood to fall off on its on. Hopefully they treated the nest.

Thanks for the coverage...I knew I would not go back to this cam until I knew what there plans were.

I'm going over to RRP now..

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

IT

just finishing for kitten.. :egg11:

I will be pleased but surprised if the one survives.
If any survive it will be due to the

SHARP EYE of SKY

:thankyou

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:18 pm **Posts:** 64406

Shepherd wrote:

IT

just finishing for kitten.. :egg11:

I will be pleased but surprised if the one survives.
If any survive it will be due to the

SHARP EYE of SKY

:thankyou

Not really...this is what we all do as viewers...ya learn what's normal and what's not and then raise a red flag...and heaven knows, Blackdog unfortunately taught us a lot about parasites last year!!!

OK..these chicks aren't out of the woods yet...but, I'm convinced the treatment gave at least 2 of the chicks a fighting chance. It was only a matter of time before they were infested as well...

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:10 pm **Posts:** 6578

Those poor poor babies.
I expect Mom is infected and likely dad.
Amy really didnt say much. Would she have put anything on them?

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