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 Post subject: Re: MONTREAL, QUEBEC~2017
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:41 pm 
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I am just heartsick about this!!

Thanks for the coverage, everyone...I know it must have been horrible to watch...For those that don't have FB to view Chad's video, here's the video that Richard posted on their FB page..




I couldn't watch the entire thing, but that fight was bad. I've never seen such long beak locks between 2 birds. The only injury visible on either bird was around the cere and beak..No injury was visible on either bird's chest area...so, I hope no talons penetrated Spirits chest...of course, pressure could cause injury!!

Both birds DID fly off at the end...unless I was watching pigeons. Its possible that Spirit was more injured by the controlled fall than the fight.. :girlsad3: We may never know unless she is spotted or found.

So sad...

For what its worth, here's the very end of Richard's vid. (after the tumble out of the box.) 2 birds in the same location...1 flies off and eventually the second one flies off. Of course, its so far away, I can only assume its Spirit and the other female...I guess the cam operator did as well.




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 Post subject: Re: MONTREAL, QUEBEC~2017
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:59 pm 
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Breaking down some of the vid that might be hard to spot or might not be obvious.

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I cannot even to begin to watch vidoe but I did watch part o f fall. we do not know which female was which when they fell. right

hope that spirit is located . she may need attention.

but I just want to say, Spirit was a great falcon. gave us all so much joy. In my head , I know how this all works, with takeovers etc. but in my heart, I am heartbroken once again this year. Spirit was a real treat to watch. I am praying that she is O.K.

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I am so sorry to hear this, I just loved Spirit.
What a great mom. Hope for the best.

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 Post subject: Re: MONTREAL, QUEBEC~2017
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:40 am 
Both did NOT fly off...at the end of your video, SGB watch the one to the right. It is still sitting there as the one to the left fly off.

Now the video doesn't go on to where the cam operator zoomed down towards the one on the right. (That is in my video)
The operator narrowly missed seeing the peregrine sitting there, and panned the zoomed cam to the right, instead of the left.
They focused on some pipes and such.
Then, when they zoomed back out from that point, I stopped the video because, again, the peregrine was still sitting there.
Anyone can go look at the video on theit FB page that this site posted, and watch this.
Don't focus on the one that flew to the left. Keep your eye on the one that flew to the wall, on the right.
Granted, the cam is blurred, but it is obvious when you see it full screen.
If they are truly concerned and looking for her, they might want to pan down to that area today, as the new female was looking down there yesterday, after she returned. In fact, when she took off, she headed down, but the cam operator panned out into the sky and ledges, instead of down there.
I posted the pics on their FB page, but it was ignored.Rick stated that both flew off, and never commented again on the pics I posted in the comments.
Oh Well...I tried.


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 Post subject: Re: MONTREAL, QUEBEC~2017
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Thanks Matrix...I'll go back and take another look...

Trying to stay optimistic here..the point being that at one point, they BOTH flew...if you've every operated a PTZ cam, it is not easy to do, especially when trying to keep up with flying birds at a distance...by the time you get a cam panned or zoomed, often you've missed the pic...I know...I operated the Richmond BE cam for a season..


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:25 am 
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Spirit!!!

[youtube]https://youtu.be/OWLLDiG43DA[/youtube]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/_vFvVRMzPKY[/youtube]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/YPTpxPnihOM[/youtube]


Just before Spirit came into the box she copulated with Eole.
We saw that as a shadow
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 Post subject: Re: MONTREAL, QUEBEC~2017
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anniet wrote:
[youtube]GhHYF4fVnLo[/youtube]


Spirit!!!

[youtube]OWLLDiG43DA[/youtube]

[youtube]_vFvVRMzPKY[/youtube]

[youtube]YPTpxPnihOM[/youtube]


Let me see if I can figure these out..


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skybluegirl, I rewrote my text above, but I can't put YT or pics anymore!
Forgot it.... so sorry!

[youtube]http://youtu.be/OWLLDiG43DA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://youtu.be/_vFvVRMzPKY[/youtube]

[youtube]http://youtu.be/YPTpxPnihOM[/youtube]


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anniet wrote:
skybluegirl, I rewrote my text above, but I can't put YT or pics anymore!
Forgot it.... so sorry!


Don't worry...I'll fix it for you!!


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 Post subject: Re: MONTREAL, QUEBEC~2017
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Vids from anniet:

Spirit








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 Post subject: Re: MONTREAL, QUEBEC~2017
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skygirlblue wrote:
anniet wrote:
skybluegirl, I rewrote my text above, but I can't put YT or pics anymore!
Forgot it.... so sorry!


Don't worry...I'll fix it for you!!


Thank you Sky, even without the S on http it doesn't work :girlsad3:


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There is a follow up of the fight from yesterday
Credits Richard Dupuis

It is very long: 1,20 hours.

I put it here, but haven't seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wUAZCB ... NzA0MjAxNw


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anniet wrote:
skygirlblue wrote:
anniet wrote:
skybluegirl, I rewrote my text above, but I can't put YT or pics anymore!
Forgot it.... so sorry!


Don't worry...I'll fix it for you!!


Thank you Sky, even without the S on http it doesn't work :girlsad3:


Yes. YouTube has changed their coding. You have to take the URL from the URL window at the top of your browser. The link that YouTube provides when you click "share" does not work for us here.


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 Post subject: Re: MONTREAL, QUEBEC~2017
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skygirlblue wrote:
Yes. YouTube has changed their coding. You have to take the URL from the URL window at the top of your browser. The link that YouTube provides when you click "share" does not work for us here.


OK! :fangirl:

EDIT: But even with your link Sky, I can't see the vids :egg16:

I give it a try myself


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skygirlblue wrote:
Thanks Matrix...I'll go back and take another look...

Trying to stay optimistic here..the point being that at one point, they BOTH flew...if you've every operated a PTZ cam, it is not easy to do, especially when trying to keep up with flying birds at a distance...by the time you get a cam panned or zoomed, often you've missed the pic...I know...I operated the Richmond BE cam for a season..


I watched that 3 times and the other did fly off to right but low in cam operators vidoe. they both did fly off, but last one a bit after one on left flew

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Can't still see anything on my vid above :girlsad3:


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 Post subject: Re: MONTREAL, QUEBEC~2017
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:02 am 
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skygirlblue wrote:
Thanks Matrix...I'll go back and take another look...

Trying to stay optimistic here..the point being that at one point, they BOTH flew...if you've every operated a PTZ cam, it is not easy to do, especially when trying to keep up with flying birds at a distance...by the time you get a cam panned or zoomed, often you've missed the pic...I know...I operated the Richmond BE cam for a season..


I watched that 3 times and the other did fly off to right but low in cam operators vidoe. they both did fly off, but last one a bit after one on left flew


The one on the right did not fly off. It flew up to the wall. As I said, bev, SGB's video cut off before the cam zoomed down to where the one on the right was sitting.One has to go to the complete video, and watch.
If you want to turn this into a "I'm right" moment, go for it. I was trying to get attention drawn to the peregrine's plight, now a I'm right, your wrong moment"...
Just had a message from Rick, and it appears some are upset, yet again, over my comments (this time on my personal page) Instead of concern for the peregrine!!
I can't help it if I can't post the video here. Third Party picture/video sources to post to the forum are a pain for my resources to accomplish.
As for operating a cam, it is obvious from watching when they operate it, it is difficult.
Now I know WHO operates it, so in the future, I can immediately message that person, instead of bickering here, about what I catch, that other's missed.
And.... Thankfully, Spirit is back now anyway, so all this is a mute point now.....


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carly wrote:
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Can't still see anything on my vid above :girlsad3:


Anniet, I had similar issues. Next to the url (address bar up top) on your browser, do you see a little 'lock' and an exclamation point in a triangle? If so, click on it and a box should open. It will say the web site you are on is not secure, click on the > next to the message and another box will open where you can 'disable protection' so you can see images and videos on this website.


Thank you Carly :dancegirl:
I will try to find it out, it's not obvious on my PC ;)

EDIT: I found it!!! THX :smilehat:


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Eole since over an hour in the nestbox.



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