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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:21 pm 
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Pics are coming...if I can ever get PB to load...then I'll work on a vid...This is bad...very bad...


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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I wonder if Dan thought she was gonna get on the eggs, because he left....he's back now...


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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skygirlblue wrote:
Pics are coming...if I can ever get PB to load...then I'll work on a vid...This is bad...very bad...


Yep... I know.

Now, lets hope she didn't come with her own mate...

I guess I resigned myself to the fact that we lost Lil yesterday when we didn't see her and they reported they thought this was Dan.

Made me think of Pa last year.

Of course, this female is unbanded.... She has a much whiter chest than Lil had in my opinion.

Maybe Dan knew that Lil was lost and that's why the friendly chups?

Sad day... I guess we will see how events unfold... But at this point, at least we were 10+ days from hatch and no little ones to worry about. Maybe Dan will re-group and will end up nesting with this female. I guess it just depends on how long he stays on the eggs.


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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SGB - you do think this was a female... right?

I'm going on size, but with the step up to the box, doubt myself


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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It is indeed a sad day...and seeing this female just confirms that Lil is MIA...I suppose it would be a miracle for her to help with incubation and raising chicks...poor Dan...Poor Lil...I have such a headache now..

Gonna go work on the vid...gotta decrease the footage first..


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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SGB - you do think this was a female... right?

I'm going on size, but with the step up to the box, doubt myself


I think its female.....but at this point, I don't trust anything that I am seeing...I may have a pic with both of them on the floor at the same time...that might enable us to compare size...

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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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Drats, not good. Same scenario as we had last year in De Mortel. If there realy is a new female, I hope Dan doesn't keep incubating those eggs.
Pa sat on them for 110 days in total . . .

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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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NO luck...Dan headed the other way!!!

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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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I have to say.. it amazes me how all these birds at the cam locations in San Jose/SF are unbanded.. We must have a much more robust population than I thought. To my knowledge, Glenn bands quite a few chicks each year. Knowing that many have been spotted within 25 - 50 miles of their natal area, I would think we would see more banded birds at these sites.

Many of the sites reported on SJ, SF and SFBay Raptors Yahoo groups indicate that most of the breeding adults are unbanded... at least that's my intreptation.

I don't know.. maybe I'm wrong...


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It sure seems that way, mwplay...

I'll tell ya, if this is a new female AND if she hangs around AND if she does not help with incubation, then I hope they will take those eggs...DEF is right...it was just so sad to see PA incubate those eggs for so long..Plus, maybe this female (if she's staying) will lay a clutch...


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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I'll be right back...


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This doesn't help a whole lot because the "stranger" is more in the foreground..

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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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OK..gonna go work on the vid..I'll be back in a few...


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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skygirlblue wrote:
I can't say for certain that the first fly by was even a falcon...but, it definitely was a bird..straight line that angled from lower left to upper right..

Almost positive that the second was a falcon..based on wing shape...it moved from left to right in a pretty straight line..


this is what I was seeing yesterday with 2 birds

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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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Dan's talking again....1059


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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Well if iti was a male that came in you would have seen a fight.

and I am just going to put this out there.

We never know anymore what is going to happen. Gord has always taught me the parameters but has said when you think you have them figured out, something else changes.
Peregrines are acting different than they did in the wild.

I am sorry Mwplay :cryinggirl: But we can hope she was chase doff and if she nests elsewhere you will not know as she is not banded. A loss of site does not mean a loss of life.

Maybe Dan can keep them incubate enough and she will take an interest. then we will have seen something new.

he is talking Right now

One thing I do know. It was not my imagination yesterday, there was flying out there(lots of flies) but flying and quick. so maybe Lil was still in picture then

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Is he scraping again because o f new female.
must be warm, beak open

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sorry, I am saying new female but we do not know anything at this point. Still have not processed my video from other nihgt. he seems alert to something

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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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skygirlblue wrote:
It sure seems that way, mwplay...

I'll tell ya, if this is a new female AND if she hangs around AND if she does not help with incubation, then I hope they will take those eggs...DEF is right...it was just so sad to see PA incubate those eggs for so long..Plus, maybe this female (if she's staying) will lay a clutch...


Pretty certain they won't take the eggs. I think there was a communication to the group that they (authority agency) were no longer going to allow for removal of pre-fledge birds from basically 0% survivability locations (bridges over waterways). Unfortunately, we've got many bridges around here and the peregrines have decided it's a great place to nest. The bridges are over deep waterways (SF Bay) with slim to no chances of surviving fledge. I don't know if this has changed in the past 8-10 months, but I doubt it. I believe the rationale behind that decision was the population is no longer in jeopardy?

I don't know this for certain - but from some of the posts regarding "SFO" my interpretation is there may be some question on whether or not they will continue to allow Glenn to rehab. I think there's info in one of his posts (he's holding SFO after being anesthetized for further evaluation) on the blog.

Oh well, I drew my own conclusions on from the prior communcations regarding rehab & no removal… Without knowing for sure, I shouldn't comment one way or another, but I know it was a point of discussion at the end of last nesting season in SF. If something was done during the off season, It wasn't publically communicated.. maybe because they were trying to work through the issues without and uproar. People on the SF group were recently discussing all kinds of things regarding the owner's decision not to take Glenn up on his offer to place a nest tray at the Sutter location. I think they tried to de-escalate the situation quickly.


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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Vid is processing..I'll be uploading in a few...lots of pixallation (sp..is that a word?) during all of this...

OK..here it is...




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