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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:22 pm 
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mwplay, I remember watching one of Glenn's banding videos from last year (will have to see if I can find it)...very dangerous climb up to the bridge scrape...I believe there was comment centered around that vid that he would no longer be able to band or rescue the bridge birds and he was not very happy...


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
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Mary M just posted to group:

Here is an update on whatis happening:

Territorial fights on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday

Dan the sole incubator of the eggs since Saturday

Falcon in the area around the nest ledge Sunday evening, doing fly-bys and landing on the PG&E building and other buildings in the area.

Dan on the eggs this morning.

A few minutes ago, a falcon landed in the area of the scrape. It was not Lil.

That's all we know for now.


So, Bev - you probably did see a fly-by.

And someone who is in the 201 Mission building reported seeing a falcon fly-by vocalizing, after the "intruder" entered the ledge area.


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 Post subject: Re: San Francisco Falcons: 2013
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:27 pm 
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skygirlblue wrote:
mwplay, I remember watching one of Glenn's banding videos from last year (will have to see if I can find it)...very dangerous climb up to the bridge scrape...I believe there was comment centered around that vid that he would no longer be able to band or rescue the bridge birds and he was not very happy...


Right - good memory - and that was a small waterway bridge, not the Bay Bridge, San Mateo Bridge, Dumbarton, Benecia, Carquinez, Richmond-San Rafael or Golden Gate!!!

That's when all the uproar over losing the ability to remove these birds started on the group. They asked people to focus on SF babies and let them deal with the issues off season.

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Somewhat Off-Topic, but related to birds in SF Bay Area. Very sad to me....

This information was posted on SF & SJ forum, and SFBAY Raptors Yahoo Groups:

Here is a video that shows the successful removal of 4 young Falcons in the Bay Area and were relocated to a hack box in Northern California. Here is the statement that was made at the end of the movie enjoy the viewing.



No peregrine falcon has fledged successfully from this bridge nest site since it was established five years ago. The young birds fledge into the bay and drown, or in the case of one youngster, broken a bone upon fledging causing an uncertain end. The UC Santa Cruz Predatory Bird Research Group has moved nestlings from dangerous bridge nests in northern and southern California since we first observed them drowning after unsuccessful fledging attempts. We have released them at "hack sites" according to protocols established during the population recovery. "Sadie" at the Oracle territory and George at the PG&E territory are just two of those bridge rescue/released birds. We have learned since the May 3rd, 2012 rescue shown here that Region 8 of the US Fish and Wildlife Service prefers to "let evolution take its course" and that future nestling extractions will be disallowed.
Glenn R. Stewart
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Predatory Bird Research Group
Long Marine Laboratory
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
(831) 459-2466
http://www.scpbrg.org



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And someone who is in the 201 Mission building reported seeing a falcon fly-by vocalizing, after the "intruder" entered the ledge area.

So maybe Lil is still in area


so SGB, appears to be a female but I guess we will have to wait

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great vidoe SGB :snowflake2:

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Well, now what...I can't say for certain without sound, that Dan was even upset, tho, not particularly comfortable with this stranger...who has very long legs and hardly any pantaloons!!!


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Is it even possible that this stranger is preventing Lil from returning to the scrape? I mean, that's a long shot..but is it possible?


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Who knows how long Gord is going to be able to do what he is doing. I get so mad. I have always felt that if you know something is wrong it is you r duty to make it better.

nature or not. I do not think anyone o f us would pass an injured bird or animal without trying to help

these powers to be are not in the field anymore. they just have the power. I say leave Glenn alone to do what the feels is right.

It makes me mad when a young one is dying at a site and they say just sit back it is nature. We know this but if you see it, help it.

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Is it even possible that this stranger is preventing Lil from returning to the scrape? I mean, that's a long shot..but is it possible?


this is possible and if Lil is still out there may still have a chance. We saw that with the eagles at Shepherds a few years ago( although htat did not end well) But who knows.

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I agree, Bev...but, most of the powers that be do not!!!

It would be so easy at this particular nest to intervene if they wanted to....none of the dangers associated with climbing up into those bridges...


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skygirlblue wrote:
Well, now what...I can't say for certain without sound, that Dan was even upset, tho, not particularly comfortable with this stranger...who has very long legs and hardly any pantaloons!!!


i noticed the hardly pantaloons also but think a female . there would have been attack if female

look at Harrisburg this year, dad there NB there, then DAD then NB The unfortunate thing here is htere are eggs

I hate not being to see beyond the cam

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man, what a mess

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skygirlblue wrote:
I agree, Bev...but, most of the powers that be do not!!!

It would be so easy at this particular nest to intervene if they wanted to....none of the dangers associated with climbing up into those bridges...


SGB - you are right about this site... It's just a door at the end of the long ledge. That's how they get bad fledges back on the ledge & do the banding. Of all the sites, it is probably has the easiest access.


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OK...gonna NOW try to get some stuff done...

Cam is up, recorder on the cam, Dan on the eggs...the next falcon I see coming through that "door" better be Lil...I pray!!!


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I am still hoping for Lil also. If another female around she will need to protect.

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12:11

Did I miss him leave or is this him.

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1211 Dan taking a break. Stretching. Poor Dan - feel so sorry for him.

He's picking a little in front of box on mat. Sunbathing on mat.


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This is Dan...bless his heart...out and sunbathing...


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what is up??looking at my recording

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awe poor guy. I left for a minute and thought Lil had come in

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