ROCHESTER, NY ~ 2013 Part 3, May

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:15 am **Posts:** 10250

He tried to jump in the box & B blocked him.

Dang it.

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:15 am **Posts:** 10250

Gosh dang it.....

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:15 am **Posts:** 10250

I think it's a different male..

The "new" bird really did not display the same behaviors as UT did during the day.

This bird may have just come back to the box to see if he could make it in, but B isn't having anything to do with him.

Good..

Kris G. · **Posted:** Thu May 16, 2013 9:29 pm

What I don't understand is B not getting some cached food and eating. I know she's protecting her eggs but somewhere self preservation has to come into play. I'm sure she went to sleep with a full crop last night so how long does food there last? DC always roosts at BS-even when there have been threats DT so I would think he went back there, if he's capable, but no one seemed to check there once they were DT.

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:15 am **Posts:** 10250

I'm hoping the same Carly.

And, I think my personal favoritism for DC is clouding my belief that this could be UT.

I'm sorry, but DC fought for this box. Provided for Beauty... Is loyal and dedicated.

This male did not bring ANY food to B today.. not a good provider.

So, I need to calm down and watch what tomorrow brings.. and pray for DC and B and P.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

Thanks for the great coverage here..and really glad that DC made an appearance..I sure am hoping for the best!!! :girlyes:

Kris G. · **Posted:** Thu May 16, 2013 11:11 pm

carly wrote:

Kris G. wrote:

What I don't understand is B not getting some cached food and eating. I know she's protecting her eggs but somewhere self preservation has to come into play. I'm sure she went to sleep with a full crop last night so how long does food there last? DC always roosts at BS-even when there have been threats DT so I would think he went back there, if he's capable, but no one seemed to check there once they were DT.

She can go awhile without eating Kris. By morning she will start to realize things but for now she knows her mate is alive ..or thinks he is. She's a faithful mate, even though they had a rocky start - he's the father of those eggs. She has been through failed nests and that is what will happen here if this guy can't provide. This new guy wants to court, he's in another space and she'll end up doing all the work.

Sometimes a new tiercel will be really great and be a good step father and other times, they just try to court the female. They wont' hurt the kids but they won't brood them, they won't feed them and they won't help with fledge..they will just kind of keep courting the female and may provide food to her.

It's just a bad time right now. If a cold snap comes and she has to get off those eggs and a warm body isn't on top of them...well they won't make it out alive. He has no brood patch....and likely won't be getting one this year.

Pray she only has 2 hatches, that she can handle while dealing with him..any more than that and like at other nests we've seen they may have to remove some so the female can handle it on her own.

I did find this about crops:

Birds have a specialized digestive system that gets food quickly into the bloodstream. Raptors, like most hunters, never know when their next meal will be; they must be well adapted to feast and famine. In their esophagus is a crop, an enlarged area that allows for the ingestion of large amounts of food. With a full crop, a raptor can survive five to seven days without eating.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

Thanks for that information, Kris...I knew they could last a couple of days, I had no idea they could go that long without a feed!!!

bev. · **Posted:** Thu May 16, 2013 11:50 pm

well gals and guys. My bet is on DC.

may have just been stunned. if he is flying fine , as they reported once he flew, then maybe a hit and so he had to sleep it off.

He is a smart cookie. And I am praying for good things tomorrow.

Remember how that male in Harrisburg , kept coming back.

Get a good nights sleep DC.

I am just wondering where P is

bev. · **Posted:** Thu May 16, 2013 11:52 pm

Kris G. wrote:

What I don't understand is B not getting some cached food and eating. I know she's protecting her eggs but somewhere self preservation has to come into play. I'm sure she went to sleep with a full crop last night so how long does food there last? DC always roosts at BS-even when there have been threats DT so I would think he went back there, if he's capable, but no one seemed to check there once they were DT.

B may sneak out during nihgt. Remember there are lights there and falcons do fly at nihgt.

Dutch Eagle Fan · **Posted:** Fri May 17, 2013 4:40 am

4.34 am in Rochester:
Beauty on eggs, tiercel on porch. Some whining and B responding with chups.
I have not followed this nest close enough to even guess the ID of this male. And I hardly ever have the live stream on, so can't tell anything by their sounds either, sorry.

Catbird · **Posted:** Fri May 17, 2013 7:36 am

Oh no, not another fight this morning! When will this all stop?

I hope DC is all right . . . the poor guy was just recovering from a previous one. I'm almost afraid to check in on the Rochester falcons . . . it seems as though there's nothing but bad news this week. And I hope Beauty is all right, especially with the eggs so close to hatching.

Catbird · **Posted:** Fri May 17, 2013 7:46 am

Yes, the other male is back. This is not good at all.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

This is so not good...I was hoping that after DC made an appearance yesterday, that this territory had been decided in his favor. And now to hear of a battle. Let's hope DC made the decision to move out of the area rather than to continue the fight. Bless his heart..I pray he is ok. Based on past comments/info from biologists, 15 minutes is a short battle. Let's hope it didn't continue once they were both out of view.

Now let's pray that there isn't a round 3..and that all the pieces fall into place at this critical time.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

I agree, Carly...he's been so devoted here, in spite of his rocky starts, he's always stepped up to the plate. The fact that he took on this other male, despite not being 100% is a great testament to his devotion here. Let's just hope his self-preservation instinct kicked in and he high tailed it outta there before serious injury.

Hopefully, one of the watchers will spot him later on today and hopefully with Pigott!!!

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

Thanks for the great pics...Well, that's a step in the right direction. Let's hope the sight of eggs triggers some sort of incubation response.

bev. · **Posted:** Fri May 17, 2013 8:54 am

I am still hoping for DC
We do not know hang in there CArly

this is not good for the egg
this is not the one that was courting Beauty before

bev. · **Posted:** Fri May 17, 2013 9:04 am

All I can say is CRA-

I have to go but will check back
Hope DC is found .

just weird about P also

Catbird · **Posted:** Fri May 17, 2013 11:36 am

carly wrote:

Well Pigott is back...c.r.a.p. I hope DC isn't on the roof and that's why they are circling :girlsad3:

wnyfalconfan (Joyce): BS: I have a falcon on westside window near extension. Looks like P with full crop. 2 TVs on southside roof above vent. Others circling.

Oh no, please don't let it be DC on the roof!

The only good news this morning is that Beauty is still holding her own and the eggs are still intact after one of the UT's was in the nest box checking them out.

Catbird · **Posted:** Fri May 17, 2013 11:39 am

Beauty's out on the ledge now, and it sounds like she might be calling for DC.

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