JAMES RIVER BRIDGE: MAY 2010-DEC 2010

Beth · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:45 am

Wonderful SgB... :sfthumbs:

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

catwoman wrote:

Nice catches of the 2 this morning, SGB! Once again, they appear for you! :sfyea:

Sure wish I had that affect on Columbus... :sigh

Beth · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:50 pm

We have a different color band :shock:

on the first photo, taken around 2:30 pm today...2nd photo is James 2009 from CCB...

catwoman · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:03 pm

Thanks for the comparison pics, Beth. Unfortunately, they look a lot alike, so unless we can see bands, we can't tell which one it is...not happy to hear that the other male was there earlier. :-(

I see the band on James' left leg is silver, & the shot of a banded male on Tuesday did appear to have a silver band on his left leg. I wonder if James is still around & another tiercel is as well. :-?

ljames · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:01 pm

Nice catch of the two. That new falcon does look alot like James, same coloring and markings, I think. Is there more white over the new guy's beak? Well, James is very very old right? Maybe he's not a threat to the other one and no fighting, but don't really know if that really ever happens. How old is Elizabeth? The new falcon could be anybody, but with bands, we will eventually find out and it may be somebody we know even.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

They really do look alike...I'm thinking it was james this morning, but can't be sure as I never got a clear look at the bands. Let's just hope james and Green man don't show up at the nest at the same time...

I tried blowing up Beth's pic...didn't turn out too well..

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

Bumping up Barb's pics of Green Man...

obxbarb wrote:

This is a new falcon, with a green band.

catwoman · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:36 am

OK, I'm gonna spin a fantasy here. What color bands were used on VA chicks? I'm wondering if this could be one of James' sons & if so, he would recognize his father & not fight him. He would also recognize his mother, so I don't think he would be bonding with Elizabeth, but then bonding isn't necessarily a precursor to mating (as we saw with Polly, Spirit & Roger in Montreal). Or perhaps this is a son of James & Virginia.

How is that for weaving a fairy tale? :smile:

ljames · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:17 am

Catwoman, you can weave a happy story better than anyone I know. I love it. :sleigh:

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

I love the fairy tale!!!..and here's the magic wand to go with it!!! :sfwand:

catwoman · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:29 am

Here is a picture of a Cobb chick that has been banded. It looks black/green to me, but Barb & Shawn seemed to think the tiercel at this nest is an out-of-state falcon. :-?

obxbarb · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:02 pm

Thanks for the pics yesterday! The one thing I did notice about the mystery falcon is some white above his beak, which James doesn't have. I was thinking offspring too since the markings are so similar. Virginia falcons have a green anodized band on the right leg, as you can see in the Cobb pics. I haven't been able to see the right bands (federal band) on the JR falcon, but Shawn seemed to think that it was not green. Usually they are silver in other places I think?

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

Both there...Elizabeth still there...working on the pics now...

catwoman · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:25 pm

obxbarb wrote:

Thanks for the pics yesterday! The one thing I did notice about the mystery falcon is some white above his beak, which James doesn't have. I was thinking offspring too since the markings are so similar. Virginia falcons have a green anodized band on the right leg, as you can see in the Cobb pics. I haven't been able to see the right bands (federal band) on the JR falcon, but Shawn seemed to think that it was not green. Usually they are silver in other places I think?

I got the impression that if a band appears to be silver, its because the band (and therefore the falcon) is very old & the colors have faded away to show the silver underneath. That's probably what happened to James' band that appears to be silver, & also Harrisburg Mom appeared to have 2 silver bands. Her federal band was actually red/black but there is only a little bit of the red/black left on her band, so it appears to be silver. This is just my impression--don't know if its fact.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

I don't know what was working worse..my computer or the cam...the cam seemed to freeze at a very important moment...any guesses on this male?

catwoman · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:30 pm

Here is one I just got of Elizabeth looking at the cam. SGB was probably busy with other pics, so this probably isn't one of her group.

catwoman · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:32 pm

Beth wrote:

We have a different color band :shock:

on the first photo, taken around 2:30 pm today...2nd photo is James 2009 from CCB...

I'm bumping up Beth's comparison pics for reference.

catwoman · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:34 pm

I'm thinking this is the new male, because the band on the left leg is dark.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64352

Thanks catwoman...I'm thinking its the new male too...my cam seemed to freeze at a crucial time...I played around with the saturation/color...but no help...I wish he would stand still like Elizabeth...it would be nice to get a good pic on cam 3...

catwoman · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:40 pm

The white over the beak can be deceiving, too, because one of the ways we could differentiate Lil Dad & Mom is that Mom had white over her beak & Lil Dad didn't. Then all of a sudden, Lil Dad had the white, too! :-?

Sure would like to know if that occurs because of aging or what else causes it.

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